Friday evening brought fans the final episode of “SG:U” for 2009.
This thread is for anyone who wants to dicuss the mid-season finale and the first half of season one as a whole.
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Jay, you have to forgive Arkle ... He's still "confused" about things. After he comes out of that massive closet, he'll see things much more clearly. Including that SGU sucks the little one.
Just because Arkle thinks Meghan Fox is skanky trailer trash doesn't mean he's "confused". I happen to agree with him. She's a bimbo living off her tits and ass. She certainly can't act.
As for SGU: As I said before Mitch, you are entitled to your opinion. As the saying goes, everybody has one. But comments about a persons sexual preferences and drug use just make you look childish.
Please stop it.
Seriously Mitch? You are still on about the Megan Fox thing? Really? You know, the thing I hate most about arguments like your is that they are designed to make the responder look bad no matter what. It's fairly clever in a sick way; insinuate someone is gay (or bi, whatever). Then, if they say "yes, I am," you can mock them for being 'different. But if they say "no, I'm not," you can accuse them of being homophobic or 'defensive.' So you know what? I'm not gonna bother saying either way. You wanna think I'm gay just because I don't want to bone a talentless hack? Go right ahead. I really don't care. I stopped giving a crap around middle school. The only person in the world who needs to know what my sexual orientation is the one whose pants I'm trying to get in at the moment. And no, I'm not going to say if it's boy or girl, mostly because you would find a way to mock me for it anyway.
As for you Jay, the "well you did it first!" argument stopped working after grade school. So I made one snarky comment at the start of the thread. Hardly comparable to you fitting 1 to 3 insults in every post.
@ Arkle - it is called an ad hominem fallacy (for anyone who didn't know it) and it serves as a distraction from the main argument. Why the attack occured is not for me to conjecture. However, for what ever it is worth, I am with the seemingly silent majority that this is a good show, that the interplay of characters interests me far more than the next 'planet on a soundstage,' that the slowly evolving truth of what lies behind this ship is intriguing.
And as for the Megan Fox thing, seriously, I could care less. I don't find her attractive either, which surprises my wife. The (very) thinly veiled insinuations as to your (or anyone else's) sexual orientation are worse than juvenile, they are puerile. To differ on the opinions as to the relative merits of sci-fi tv show is one thing (and not a very important thing at that) but to descend into attacks on persons and groups to support ones position is vile.
Not to worry, I stand with you, Arkle. And to those who make these attacks, shame.
Michael - How do you define "majority?" Since the viewership has gone down by roughly half since the pilot, are you possibly confusing "majority" with "minority?"
Mitch,
According to the numbers cited above, SGU lost about a third of it's viewers since the premiere. That leaves 2/3 remaining. I don't think you'll be able to find anything that states that 1/3 is a majority over 2/3...
Also keep in mind the Mid-Season finale of SG:U was up against the series finale of Monk. Now, I watch both shows on On Demand, but if I'd been home from work I'd have watched Monk live myself. Love SG:U obviously, but in all fairness Monk was here first.
I will join the I like SG-U club proudly!!!! I know I am going be in the minority but I already like it better than SG-Atlantis!!!!! SGA was prediictable, tiresome in the same characters always winning and never losing anything and they never really grew or changed over time for the most part. SG-1 is still the best and the new actors were great when Ben came along. Vampire like aliens did not impress me nor did I care waht really happened yet alone the worst ending ever in my opinion. It is obvious though that SG anything sparkes the fans as these stories seem to get the most posts.
FYI- SGU Renewed-
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Syfy has renewed Stargate Universe for a second season. SGU just had its fall finale for season one recently and will return in April for the remainder of season one.
SGU’s ratings haven’t been on fire, though it’s averaged 2.6 million when 7 day DVR viewing is factored in (it is averaging around 600,000 less in Live+SD viewing).
There has been chronic criticism of the show, but at this point, mostly the chronic stuff is from some whining Stargate Atlantis fans who can’t get over the demise of SGA.
Everyone else who doesn’t like the show just doesn’t watch it rather than making a hobby out of constantly complaining about SGU like the rattled SGA and SG1 fans (I am not referring to all SG1 and SGA fans here, just the ones who’ve made a hobby of SGU bashing!).
Nonetheless, the whiners will get to another season’s worth of whining out of it (and of course, it’s great news for fans of the show).
James Hibberd has an interview up with SGU producer Robert Cooper.
"Syfy has renewed Stargate Universe for a second season."
Yipee!
You all do of course realize, SGU was renewed because (word has it) SyFy gave Brad Wright a 2 year contract before the series even started. They have to pay him, they may as well get *something* for it.
Arkle: You are like my ex wife. Logic defies you, and no argument will silent you, despite it's merits. I think you argue, for the sake of arguing. More power to you.
It looks like SGU is the Enterprise of the stargate series, and as we all know after cancelling Enterprise we got such a long list of great series out of Star Trek, right?
Comparisons to older series aside, I really do find this series to be worth watching, I enjoy the whole "isolated survivors" idea, though I think it could be executed better (the idea that is) given a different setting. On the matter of characters, I honestly don't find them terribly unlikable, I mostly feel ambivalent about them (sans the ever-popular Rush, the Colonel and Eli). In any case, we've covered the resource episodes so its looking like it'll be all discovering technology and minor political drama from now on (let's hope that idea is not reveresed),
Jay: Thanks for proving my point. You just insulted me again for no reason. My point about it being up against the Monk finale was made in the piece you linked to.
During the run of the series I hope we see them figurtivly getting further and further from home. That is when it finally sinks in there may be no way back they will adapt and begin to leave earth behind more and more. When Ronald Moore worked on VOY (just a few days,lol) one of the ideas he pitched was that the by time VOY returned to earth the crew would find they no longer belonged on earth or I suppose the world they left behind.
Jayson: That would take some seriously skilled writing, and I think this series has already proved it cannot hang in the same realm occupied by Mr. Moore.
Arkle: You're welcome sweetie, and thanks for proving mine.
Jay, I'm not sure if it would require the best TV writers ever, just decent ones which is what they have. It always takes one season to get a handle on the characters and the direction the series is going in. I think its on the bonus disk for DS9 Season 2 or 3 where Rober Hewlit Wolfe says..."Television is hard, really hard" and he's right. It takes time to figure out your characters. I can see they are doing that here and they are also formulating a direction other than getting home.
Jayson: Give it up. Jay doesn't care. he has decided that since he doesn't like it, then it should be cancelled, damn everyone else. He's the opposite of me, who is actually glad that there are not that many things on TV like (SG:U being the only new show to debut this year that I've gotten into). I'm glad because it means I have more time in my day to day life for non-TV related activities.
Arkle, my aim wasn't convert him to the cause as it were or even follow the path of the Ori (lol), I was just making a point about TV in general. You can never tell about people but he like others may come around. I remember not being that fond of VOY but in reruns I like it more and the same thing with ENT.
Jayson: Even if T.V. is hard, that doesn't mean we should feel compassion for the writer's task. Yes, it's hard, and some have risen to the challenge, and their shows are worth watching, some haven't. Even shows like Voyager, and Enterprise were compelling enough in the beginning to keep you wanting to learn more. SGU is just a big mess, and I am not at all curious what's going to happen. (But it sure is fun to talk about it. -lol) The only thing that keeps me hoping, is the potential of the premise of the show, rather than what has actually happened in the show thus far.
Arkle: You really crack me up. lol. While I am certain you and I are opposite on a number of things... I'm not so sure about your characterization of me. But it does provide some welcome humor in my day. Then again, perhaps the world would be a better place if it all that was on T.V. was stuff of the same quality of BSG and SG-1. Caprica will save us.
Jay: You are not curious, but I am, and so are roughly 2/3rd of the people who watched the pilot. And we are getting a 2nd season. So, since you clearly don't like it, leave. I mean, I don't care for Chuck por ejemplo, but have I ever come on here, or called into the VM show to bash it and demand it be canceled? NO! In fact, had I not mentioned it just now, no one in the SoSF community would've even known.
CANCEL SG-U!!!! CANCEL SG-U!!!! LOL Arkle, are you worried that my dissenting voice is actually going to sway a network executive? Do network executives even know how to find SliceOfSciFi, let alone this thread???? It's already been renewed, so maybe the network execs know something we don't. Like how many advertising dollars they already have locked in for that show.
Jay, it's not empathy or compassion we should be feeling for them but respect. Again, writing 24 episodes a season is not easy by any means. All I'm saying is that we should be patient and if it's not good next season then don't watch.
Jay - Wait.. wait... WHAT? Caprica will save us??! Dude, I want whatever it is that YOU are smoking/inhaling/eating/drinking.
Wow... just...wow...
I'm optimistic about Caprica. Not overly enthused, but optimistic. Though I'll be up front and say it's really the actors involved more than anything else.